The Francis Effect podcast: Two years of COVID; anti-trans bills; nuclear disarmament

NCR executive editor Heidi Schlumpf is part of the new season of "The Francis Effect" podcast, joining co-hosts Franciscan Fr. Daniel Horan (columnist for NCR) and David Dault, executive producer and host of "Things Not Seen: Conversations about Culture and Faith."

In this episode, Father Daniel, Heidi and David discuss the recent round of legislation aimed at LGBTQ+ persons, the relationship of nuclear disarmament to the war in Ukraine, and the grim second anniversary of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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